Who are the conservatives?

The Daily Telegraph, a British paper with a conservative editorial policy, has a list of the top conservatives in the US. Rudy Giuliani heads the list. They also list Arnold Schwartzenegger among the top 20 US liberals so they are pretty sharp. It’s interesting to see their choices and why.

They also have another story about the party chosen by newly sworn citizens. Maybe that Democrat program to add more new citizens is a good idea. Of course, these people are all legal immigrants.

7 Responses to “Who are the conservatives?”

  1. Vivian Louise says:

    Funny lists.

    The quote that jumped out at me from the immigration article was “But now, no more. A lot of really bad people come from Mexico and commit crimes.

    “People are coming in and having two, three, four babies and going on welfare. Some are making money here and spending it back in Mexico.

  2. Dana says:

    Ack! Arnold on the lib list…and to think I voted for that flip-flopper! Talk about a chameleon.

  3. Brett King says:

    I voted for Arnold mostly because I was upset at the last minute smear tactics by Davis and I wanted to make it clear that such behavior will not be tolerated. I should have gone with my first instict and voted for McClintock who has studied the California budget for a decade and was willing to cut and slash where necessary. Arnold’s green policies are going to take hard earned money right out of my wallet.

  4. Eric Blair says:

    I voted for Ah-nold, too, while I was still in California. I couldn’t stand the idea of the aptly named Gray Davis in charge anymore.

    Besides, the Govinator is a killer cyborg from the future. Surely he knows what to do (grin)?

    I was thinking about this topic—who to vote for—the other day. Professor Bainbridge is toying with not voting in the next Presidential election. That puts Hillary! (or Obama) in charge, with a Democratic congress. And at least two new Supreme Court appointments.

    Given how judges have decided they are a new and mighty branch of government, I am a little worried about that.

    But Professor Bainbridge wants to stay home, because he doesn’t like the Republican front runners. He wants to “send a message” to the RNC. I don’t care about messages. I’m more concerned about the legislation and appointments from Hill/Bill or Obama.

    Hey, I could be wrong. But I fear many Republicans are going to get all purist in the coming election. And the stakes are plenty high.

  5. doombuggy says:

    “Professor Bainbridge is toying with not voting in the next Presidential election.”

    I tell such acquaintances that ‘you’ve got to get on the bus that stops closest to your door’.

    This also seems covered by my favorite theme of late, the ultimatum game, where people opt out entirely, rather than stay in a game with high perceived unfairness.

    When I got involved in local elections, I noticed, to my distress, that a lot of “my” people did not vote: some did not want to bother, some did not want their name on the list for jury pool, some did not want to bestow any approval on those in public office, many were Amish, Jehovah Witnesses, Mennonites, Hutterites. Meanwhile the Dems were busing in every homeless, convicted felon, welfare recipient in sight, holding their hands through the voting booth, saying ‘hurry up, we’ve got 3 more stops.’

  6. Dana says:

    doombuggy, you make a valid point. If you’re not in the game, don’t complain about the outcome.

    However, with that said, I can personally attest to the fact that it gets beyond frustrating to continually be ‘in the game’ and yet feel the immense sense of pointlessness as issues that at one time would defy rational thought become law or policy. Or to be proactive in communicating w/my elected officials and stressing a pov for them to consider and receive back (from Boxer in Cali) a lengthy email touting her accomplishments in protesting the Iraq war when in fact my original email to her was entirely about the border issue in So Cal. I completely understand the Amish, JWs, Menns, etc. Although my reasons weren’t for religious reasons. Just plain old apathy.

  7. doombuggy says:

    “…it gets beyond frustrating”

    I can understand. I have more sympathy now, since I’ve waded into the system a couple of times in hopes of (big laugh here) changing things for the better.

    My internal debate wonders if I should be happy things aren’t worse than they are now. Or, if I should be more enraged, in hopes of spurring myself to more efforts.